Orange Mushroom's Blog

I was hoping there’d be some kind of damage formula change since all these bosses have received enormous HP buffs…any news on something like that Max, or do they just expect you to be funded in order to fight these guys?

pretty legit, especially the non-nx scissors.

Do you gain more HP when putting AP into HP? Or less? Because the way it is now, Demon Avenger is ridiculously overpowered.

Avenger is pretty cool, but Demon Slayer is looking more and more practical considering the per minute HP cost of Avenger’s attacks seems completely suicidal. A couple full screen attacks here, a couple enemy attacks there, and Avenger has to be burning through HP pots faster than a cash whore burns through cubes.

There’s nothing wrong with having an HP warrior whose damage is dependent upon HP. In fact, that’s awesome. But making the character burn out his life to attack is a stupidity that makes Avenger unappealing. Compare the unpopular Drks, who also cast from HP and pale in comparison to their Hero brethren. Also, Angelic Burster, who doesn’t use HP but doesn’t kill herself just to attack. Contrast Demon Slayer, who, while also casting from HP to a lesser extent, still had his attacks’ DF requirements DEcreased and his survivability INcreased. And that’s in addition to having hyper skills that further decrease DF costs. Meanwhile, Avenger’s nerfs/buffs simply server to make him kill himself faster.

It’s fine if they want to nerf damage, because let’s face it, they’re already planning to destroy the class in 6 months. But to bump up casting costs isn’t so much a nerf as it is a kick in the balls to those who enjoyed the original Demon Slayer’s shift away from pot addiction.

If I ever start playing Maple again, it won’t be as an Avenger. And I don’t know why anyone would play this class for more than a few months. After the 6 month nerf, it’ll take them a year to get the class right. It won’t happen until the KMS Summer 2014 patch. You know, since DS (and CS!) came out in Summer of 2011, and didn’t get buffed back up to relevance until now, in Winter of 2012. Within the next year and a half, more, even better, classes will be released, and since Avenger seems mediocre and suicidal NOW, the coming nerfs will likely make him utter shit that can’t possible last past the next (post-Xenon) round of new character introductions. It just doesn’t seem like a sensible long term investment in items and equipment, not when the regular Demon Slayer is just as strong, just as flashy, just as awesome, and has already had the time to wipe the shitnerf off its face. In that regard, Avenger just seems like a new Demon Slayer for the sake of making a new Demon Slayer. I fail to see what practical purpose it has, or what niche it fills. At least the original Demon Slayer was the first “lightning bruiser” warrior.

I never thought I’d type this but this new class is shit. It’s not innovative. It’s not interesting. All it does it make HP the one stat to rule them all, and then offset the benefits by doing away with the MP bar, thus making the class burn up the extra HP it would’ve had if they’d just done away with casting costs or, if that’s too game breaking, just made Avenger use the same DF gauge as DS. I didn’t like Angelic Burster, Kaiser or Luminous either. But that was because their playstyle didn’t appeal to me. Avenger, on the other hand, just seems to be a poor design that’s too concerned with balance and casting costs to realize the suicidal drawbacks are a turn off.

Maybe Xenon will be more interesting. But I’ll probably have the same problem with Xenon that I did with Phantom. Having to change the effects/modes of a single skill is a pain in the ass. The tried and true method of separating mobbing and 1v1 skills is far more practical. Even more practical than that is having 1 skill (ala BaM) that does both. But having one skill that does both, only never at the same time, is arguably the worst, most annoying game mechanic since they decided to make Avenger burn through HP pots like an addict.

At the end of Unlimited, my fave classes will probably be DS, CS, BaM and WH. The resistance classes wound up really competitive, while the newest ones since “Legends” are becoming increasingly complex, convoluted and crippled by the overfocus on balancing out their abilities through game mechanics rather than just changing the numbers. And they STILL get nerfed anyway. It seems like the Bangers and Legends are turning out to be the sweet spot, between the bland and boring adventurers, and the annoying hoops that players have to jump through with classes like Kaiser (gimping players who don’t use the command key), Burster (recharging? fuck that) and Avenger (chugging pots like your life depends on it, BECAUSE IT DOES). Nexon should really go back to keeping it simple, or at least stop limiting skill usage based on fake difficulty.

tl;dr Slayer rules Avenger drools

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