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kMSt ver. 1.2.411 – Thief Hero: Phantom!

The new job Phantom has been released into Tespia!! As well, there are nerfs to the three jobs released in Legend, and some other interesting things you might want to see! Check past the cut!

There is also information about Phantom’s character creation, a tour of Crystal Garden, and the ins and outs of his Steal Skill ability!

Please note that all values are taken from the maximum level and that since this is in Tespia, many skill icons are just placeholders! As always, thanks to Fiel of Southperry for both animations and skill icons (except for the Beginner skills)!

Phantom (beginner)

  •  Return of Phantom: Return to Phantom’s flying ship, Crystal Garden.
  •  Deadly Instinct: Phantom’s insight allows him to spot flaws, permanently increase your critical chance by 10%. (Link Skill)

  •  Phantom Shroud: Hide behind a veil of cards and move quickly around a map without being hit. Use the arrow keys to choose which direction to move in.
  •  High Dexterity: Phantom has great dexterity and insight, permanently increase your DEX by 40, start with level 20 Craft and Insight.
  •  Steal Skill: Use this skill to enter Steal Mode, use the mouse to choose an Adventurer within the same map to steal a skill. You cannot steal a specific skill.
  •  Skill Management: Use the mouse to choose which skill to use with Talent of Phantom Thief and which skills to discard.

  •  Judgement: When the Card Stack is full, the entire Stack is used up and a random Card is chosen. Receive a buff depending on which Card you get. (Fortune Card – 20% critical chance increase, Misfortune Card – 40% item drop rate increase, Endurance Card – 20% resistance to states and elements increase, Drain Card – 5% of your damage will recover HP)

Phantom (1)

  •  Double Piercing: Quickly attack up to 4 enemies in front of you for 101% damage twice. (max level: 20)
  •  Talent of Phantom Thief : Stolen adventurer’s first job skill. If the skill has a passive effect, you do not receive that passive effect. You can change the settings of your stolen skills in Skill Management. Stolen skills will not exceed level 20. (max level: 20)

  •  Swift Phantom: While in the air, you can jump a certain distance (distance will increase as skill level increases). Passively increase your speed by 35, your maximum speed by 20, and your jump by 20. (max level: 15)
  •  Quick Evasion: Increase your base avoid permanently by 30%. (max level: 10)

Phantom (2)

  •  Call of Fate: Throw Phantom’s secondary weapon, Cards, forward to attack up to 2 enemies for 120% damage 3 times. (max level: 20)
  •  Talent of Phantom Thief Ⅱ: Stolen adventurer’s second job (or lower) skill. If the skill has a passive effect, you do not receive that passive effect. You can change the settings of your stolen skills in Skill Management. Stolen skills cannot exceed level 20. (max level: 20)

  •  Breeze Carte: Throw a wave of cards to push back  up to 10 enemies in front of you and hit them for 320% damage.  (max level: 20)
  •  Blanc Carte: Whenever Phantom has a critical hit, there is a 60% chance that enemies will be automatically hit by a Card for 160% damage. The Card Stack will be increased by 1. (max level: 20)
  •  Cane Mastery: Increase your mastery over the Cane by 50% and your accuracy by 200. (max level: 20)
  •  Cane Booster: Increase the speed of your weapon by 2 stages for 240 seconds. (pre-requisite: 5 Cane Mastery) (max level: 20)
  •  Luck Monopoly: Permanently increase your LUK by 40. (max level: 10)

Phantom (3)

  •  Coat of Arms: Quickly cut up to 8 enemies in front of you for 170% damage 4 times. (max level: 20)
  •  Talent of Phantom Thief Ⅲ: Stolen adventurer’s third job (or lower) skill. If the skill has a passive effect, you do not receive that passive effect. You can change the settings of your stolen skills in Skill Management. Stolen skills will not exceed level 20. (max level: 20)

  •  Luck of Phantom Thief: If you were to die while this buff was active, your HP would be restored and the buff would be consumed instead. Passively increase your LUK by 60. There is a cooldown of 300 seconds. (max level: 20)

  •  Misfortune Protection: For 240 seconds, protect yourself from misfortune by increasing your HP and MP by 30% and your resistance to states and elements by 40%. (max level: 20)

  •  Flash and Flee: Have an additional 30% evasion rate. (max level: 20)

  •  Moonlight: Using the power of the blue moon, increase your attack by 30 and your accuracy by 200 for 240 seconds. (max level: 20)

  •  Phantom Charge: Rush up to 10 enemies and hit them for 250% damage 2 times, then shortly after moving hit them with a crescent moon cut for 220% damage 3 times.  You can link Breeze Carte after this attack, and if you do, Breeze Carte’s delay will be reduced. Passively increase Breeze Carte’s damage by 50%. (max level: 20)
  •  Acute Sense: Permanently increase your chance to hit a critical by 50%.

Phantom (4)

  •  Ultimate Drive: Continuously attack up to 6 enemies in front of you with your Cane for 85% damage, you can move while holding the skill key down but your walking speed will be decreased while using it. (max level: 30)
  •  Talent of Phantom Thief Ⅳ: Stolen adventurer’s fourth job (or lower) skill. If the skill has a passive effect, you do not receive that passive effect. You can change the settings of your stolen skills in Skill Management.   Stolen skills will not exceed level 30. (max level: 30) 
  •  Noir Carte: Whenever Phantom has a critical hit, there is a 100% chance that enemies will be automatically hit by a Card for 220% damage. The Card Stack will be increased by 1. Passively increase evasion rate by 20%. (pre-requisite: 20 Blanc Carte) (max level: 20)

  •  Twilight: Jump back and attack up to 10 enemies with powerful Cards for 330% three times. You can link Phantom Charge after this attack, and if you do, Phantom Charge’s delay will be reduced. Passively increase Phantom Charge”s damage by 50%. (max level: 20)

  •  Pray of Aria: Aria’s prayers allow you to ignore 30% of an enemy’s defense and increases your damage by 30% for 240 seconds. (max level: 30)

  •  Tempest of Cards: A growing storm of powerful Cards attacks up to 12 enemies around Phantom for 370% damage continuously. There is a cooldown of 8 seconds. (max level: 30)
  •  Cane Expert: Increase your Cane Mastery to 70%, your attack by 30, and your minimum critical damage by 15%. (pre-requisite: 20 Cain Mastery) (max level: 30)

  •  Soul Steal: Steal the buffs of up to 12 monsters around you. If the monster has no buff, there is no effect. If you steal an attack related buff, you receive a 40 attack boost. If you steal a defense related buff, you reduce your damage taken by 40%. If you steal a damage reflection buff, you reflect 600% of the damage you take. If you steal an invincibility buff, you receive temporary invincibility. There is a cooldown of 60 seconds. (max level: 20)

  •  Maple Warrior: Increases all players’ stats within the party by 15% for 900 seconds. (max level: 30)

  •  Hero’s Will: By focusing your mind, you can ignore abnormal status effects. There is a cooldown of 360 seconds. (max level: 5)

Thieves

  • Flash Jump: can now be activated by pressing the Jump key in the air
  • Shadow Partner: damage copied has been increased from 50% to 70%
  • Shadow Web (Hermit): DoT duration has been increased from 6 seconds to 8 seconds

Pirates

  • Energy Charge (Buccaneer): duration has been increased from 30 seconds to 60 seconds, speed has been increased from 30 to 50

Cannon Shooter

  • Slug Shot: damage has been decreased from 220% to 180%
  • Monkey Rush Boom: initial damage has been decreased from 50% to 40%, explosion damage has been decreased from 300% to 250%
  • Cannon Spike: damage has been decreased from 260% to 170%
  • Monkey Wave: damage has been decreased from 1000% to 760%
  • Cannon Bazooka: damage has been decreased from 650% to 600%
  • Magnetic Anchor: damage has been decreased from 500% to 300%,  self destruction damage has been decreased from 620% to 420%
  • Cannon Buster: damage has been decreased from 305% to 285%

Mercedes

  • Final Shot: damage has been decreased from 90% to 60%
  • Final Attack: Dual Bowgun: damage has been increased from 75% to 150%
  • High Kick Demolition: damage has been decreased from 120% to 100%, Charge Drive’s damage boost has been decreased from 30% to 20%
  • Strike Dualshot: damage has been decreased from 126% to 115%
  • Unicorn Spike: damage has been decreased from 150% to 140%
  • Legendary Spear: damage has been decreased from 572% to 520%
  • Lightning Edge: damage has been decreased from 435% to 405%
  • Rolling Moonsault: damage has been decreased from 190% to 170%

Demon Slayer

  • Death Curse: instant death chance has been decreased from 5% to 1%
  • Soul Eater: damage has been decreased from 150% to 100%
  • Outrage: critical chance boost has been decreased from 20% to 10%
  • Demon Slash 1st Upgrade: damage boost has been decreased from 40% to 20%
  • Dark Judgement: damage has been decreased from 300% to 150%
  • Demonic Breath: damage has been decreased from 169% to 140%, DoT has been decreased from 135% to 115%
  • Dark Endure: resistance to states and elements boost has been decreased from 80% to 60%
  • Demon Explosion: damage has been decreased from 335% to 235%
  • Demon Impact: damage has been decreased from 400% to 240%, defense ignored while attacking a boss has been decreased from 50% to 30%
  • Dark Bind: damage has been decreased from 900% to 700%, DoT has been decreased from 200% to 140%

This is the new character creation screen! You can see they put a large emphasis on both Phantom and the new Thief and Pirate classes! If you were going to ask, Dual Blader, Cannon Shooter, Mercedes, and Demon Slayer are not on here because in Korean MapleStory, they are time-limited jobs and only can be created during certain periods of time.

Also, as a note, the rest of these pictures aren’t going to be cropped either because I’m lazy and I want to get this information out fast!

This is the screen that appears when you choose to create Phantom. You can choose between a male or female Phantom, just like the jobs that came out during the Legend update!

You can then choose between two hairs, two eyes, and any hair colour! That was unexpected. After this, you’re done! However, currently in Tespia there are absolutely no storyline  quests for Phantom, not even a tutorial! Mr. Goldstein in Lith Harbor handles advancements and levelling you up to 10.

This is Phantom’s own airship, Crystal Garden! I really like it, it looks really good! Plus the name is awesome too, haha.

You’ll then enter the Central Hall. Here you’ll find the weapon and pot sellers, as well as Alfred, your butler! From here you can enter the rest of the rooms in Crystal Garden.

This is the Cockpit, with the captain of the ship!

This is Phantom’s Bedroom. Isn’t it nice? It’s on a fountain! Plus there’s the first maid, Cinnamon. This guy just keeps getting cooler and cooler.

This is the Training Center Entrance, with maid number 2, Cream. I suspect that this place will be used in the tutorial, there are two rooms, one with Orange Mushrooms and the other with Stumps.

This is the Warehouse, where Phantom stores all of his stolen goods! There’s also the storage person, but who cares? Look at all of those mesos!

Finally, this is the Information Office. I guess these people will give Phantom his quests, Christine and Mao, the information analysts. There’s also the third maid, Chocolat.

Now here’s the part you’ve been waiting for, how does the Phantom’s ability to steal skills even work? Well, it’s actually very simple! First, you use your beginner skill Steal Skill. Your mouse will turn into a cross hair, this is called Steal Mode! You must then click on an Adventurer in your map (yup, you can only steal skills from Adventurers)!

Clicking on an adventurer will open up the Target Skill window. This is where you choose which skills you want to steal! There are a couple of drawbacks, you cannot steal passive skills or summons. Also, you can only steal skills from jobs in which you have gotten points into the Talent of Phantom Thief skill.

Once you’re done, you can see your stolen skills by using the Skill Management beginner skill!  As you can see, there’s a limited number of skills you can have each job. 4 for first and second job, 3 for third, and 2 for fourth. Once you steal a skill, it will stay with you until you yourself choose to delete it. It doesn’t matter if the target leaves the map, if you log off, or anything! Also, if you ever run out of room for new skills, you can right click one of them and choose Delete.

The level of the skills you steal depends firstly on the level that the person you stole it from had. If they had level 1 Hyper Body, you would only ever have 1 Hyper Body unless you found another Dark Knight to steal it from. Secondly, it depends on your Talent of Phantom Thief skill (each job respectively). If your Talent of Phantom Thief II skill is at level 13 (like mine was in this screenshot), then any skill you stole would be a maximum of level 13, no matter the skill level that the person you stole it from had.

Note, each Talent skill is seperate, they’re not upgrades. You can have all 4 on your keyboard at the same time~

You can choose one of your stolen skills to be set to your skill window. Your Talent skill will then change icons to the skill you choose here! However, if you switch set skills after using it, the first set skill (if it was a buff) will go away (meaning the effects will not be active anymore). For example, if I used Haste then switched my set skill to Magic Claw, my Haste effect would go away.

Stolen party skills will work on party members, and even better, the restriction I stated above about changed skills being nullified does not apply to your party members (their effects WILL stay if you change your set skill), therefore Phantom is the ultimate buff mule! You better choose your favourite 4 first and second job buffs, 3 third job buffs, and 2 fourth job buffs if you’re planning on using one as a mule~

                

These are Phantom’s Canes. They go from level 10 all the way to level 130! Some of the names are French, just like some of his skills~

Phantom also has his Cards, which act as a secondary weapon just like Mercedes’ Magic Arrows! The level 10 one is called Magi Carte, the level 30 one is Phantasma Carte, the level 70 one is called Teleo Carte, and finally the level 120 one is called Dernier Carte. The last one is appropriately named, Last Card, haha.

As soon as you get one point into the skill Blanc Carte, the Card Stack will appear on the side of your screen! Whenever the effects of Blanc Carte (or Noir Carte in fourth job) activate, the number of cards in your Card Stack will increase by 1! I’m going to assume that once you get one point into Noir Carte, the number of cards increases to 40. Remember that once your Card Stack is full, the skill Judgement is used!

 

Also, two interesting NPCs have been added. The first is Aria, you may recognize her from one of Phantom’s skills, Pray of Aria! Could she be Phantom’s friend who died and motivated him to become a hero?

The second is Su, also known as Orca’s twin! Finally he/she is revealed! It’s now confirmed that the Black Wings member introduced in Inkwell’s Secret Diary is none other than Su!

 

New worlds called Justice and Raven will be added!

Thieves and pirates will receive a free SP Reset, if they were created before this patch. In addition, Pirates will be able to receive their own Riding skill! I wonder what it is~ Vipers receive Super Transform and Captains receive Battleship as their mounts! As you can see, it gives 170% speed and 120% jump.

 

Similar to the Legend Festival and the Shop of Legend, the Justice Festival has begun! You can collect Justice Coins to buy items from the new NPC, David~

Neo City has been reorganized, the monsters’ stats and quests have been changed. A new Time Traveller’s Laurel has been added, which gives 10 to all stats, 200 HP, MP, defense, and magic defense, 400 accuracy, and 100 avoid. There are now scrolls for the Laurel as well!

Super Fight and the Battle Square are temporarily closed. You can trade in BP at Maximus, and buy the items sold by Larson at Inkwell. Proofs now drop from monster level 50 and over. Does this mean an incoming Super Fight revamp?

P.S. Here’s a high quality drawing of Phantom, straight from Inkwell’s Secret Diary!

P.P.S. The MapleStory homepage was updated, and I was able to get this new image! Now you can have the MapleStory Justice update as your wallpaper!

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  1. mastapan
    December 9, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    1st again

    • -=:|Person|:=-
      January 28, 2012 at 11:27 pm

      😀 hello this has nothing to do with this message i just wanted to be heard!
      I cannot wait for phantom class and was wondering, can i save my potion from the Legends event for phantom to drink?
      That would be awesome!

      • Max
        January 29, 2012 at 11:32 am

        No you can’t, my friend tried and it wouldn’t let him 😦

        • January 30, 2012 at 3:47 pm

          Is that true? Lol

          • Max
            January 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm

            Yup. I saved my exp bottles too 😦

  2. December 9, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!
    AND HAHA DEMON SLAYER NERF

  3. December 9, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    oh also,max, why arent there any vids of phantom upyet?

    • Zobie
      December 10, 2011 at 12:56 am

      • Koncept
        January 26, 2012 at 8:31 pm

        What pet is that ?

        • Max
          January 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

          Desert Fox pet

      • Anonymous
        February 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm

        omfg octopuses give 75 exp? or is it an event?

  4. wong wei lian
    December 9, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    max,can you use soul steal to steal monster skills like (magic crash) which is a bad skill ?

  5. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Nice work

  6. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Wtf is up with phantom skills o.o loving it 😛

  7. December 9, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Good job Max, once again you give us the news fairly quick….. and way quicker than some others (that I ALSO respect !!)

  8. zxcvb
    December 9, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    what a crappy class.

  9. Penguin
    December 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Can you steal buffs such as cancel weapon attack?

    • Anonymous
      April 29, 2012 at 2:10 pm

      yes you can

  10. =/
    December 9, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Seem cannoneer’s taking a beating.
    *totally oblivious to other nerfs*

  11. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Phantom looks realy cool, too bad about the cannon shooter mercedes and demon slayer 😦

  12. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Why do iget the odd feeling we will be seeing battleship again =D

    • Anonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 4:05 am

      pirates rejoice 😀

  13. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    *Yu-gi-oh player*

    -sees cards and Maplestory-

    AWWW YEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

    Also, Phantom has their own revive skill? I find that impressive.

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      It’s not really a revive skill, more a guard against death

      • Autonomous
        December 10, 2011 at 4:05 am

        revive / guard against death = works the same way.
        No more wheels!
        and the cooldown is pretty decent too.

        • Anonymous
          August 24, 2012 at 3:16 pm

          haha the guard skill got 900 sec cooldown ^0^

  14. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    how do u steal anothers jobs attack? and can u change it afterwards?

  15. collector
    December 9, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Can you steal only Adventurers’ skills ?

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2011 at 9:44 pm

      even they are its already as useful as it could.

  16. Alex
    December 9, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Meh,
    All of their skills look basically the same. 😐
    And wtf with the Cannon Shooter nerf! o.0

  17. Happiness
    December 9, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Woots! Energy charge is now back to 60 seconds! Phantom’s skills look very cool ~ Max, I was wondering if adventurer in Talent of Phantom Thief I, II, III and IV meant adventurers or all classes? Since in the vid the Phantom was only using adventurer skills like Hurricane and Heaven’s Hammer

  18. December 9, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    So its been Big Bang Chaos Accession Legends and now Justice i was hopeing there was like a little story in those words.

  19. Beans4Farts
    December 9, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    >Flash Jump

    YES.avi

  20. December 9, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    what the heck
    its been almost a day since release and no video?!!!

  21. kylesauce
    December 9, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Wtf is with Demon Slayer nerfs?

    • hohocakes
      December 10, 2011 at 2:52 am

      lol they deserved it anyways.

      • chris
        June 28, 2012 at 3:06 pm

        not really it wuz pointless

  22. December 9, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Guys who r asking how the hell do u copy and use other ppls skills go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSRjwO86nWU&feature=plcp&context=C22c84UDOEgsToPDskKNSzkUSLUNa-YZl77fLPEe i dont kno if the link will pop up so Copy and paste to up there

  23. Yess
    December 9, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Wowww Just Wow!

    Demon Slayers and Cannon Shooters got hit pretty bad by these nerfs..

    3th Job – Cannon Spike: damage has been decreased from 260% to 170%
    4th job – Cannon Bazooka: damage has been decreased from 650% to 600%

    3th job – Dark Judgement: damage has been decreased from 300% to 150% THIS SKILL DOES HALF THE DAMAGE NOW..
    4th job – Demon Impact: damage has been decreased from 400% to 240%, defense ignored while attacking a boss has been decreased from 50% to 30%

    Why oh why? I can only hope Nexon does not go through with this. Evans would be top legend now…

    • kylesauce
      December 10, 2011 at 12:07 am

      There were no Demon Slayer that REALLY needed nerfs except maybe one or two, demon impact, big time needed nerfing, powerful beyond beliefs. Demon explosion, did NOT need nerfing noir did Dark Bind.

    • Intel
      December 11, 2011 at 1:06 am

      Hey “Yess”, you must realize by now Evans are HERO/LEGEND class and Demon slayers are RESISTANCE class.

      Damn son, you stupid or what?

  24. TheDrkSeeker
    December 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    i wonder…. will nexon ever bring adventures up to date with these new classes? For instances, warriors were the first to gain a rush and a monster pulling skill (rush and monster magnet). But those skills weren’t available til 4th job (and usually not upgraded til late 175+.

    Then you have jobs like this class (Phantom), were as 2nd job, they get a extremely stronger rush skill at an earlier level. Same goes with demon slayers as well. They’re rush is much better as you can activate it anytime, and they’re version of “monster magnet” is far superior than of warriors.

    What im trying to say is, all these new classes gets extremely useful skill from start to finish. What does adventures get? Again, lets refer back to Warriors. Sure, they get a mighty boost of hp compared to any other classes, but in skill and versatility wise? not so much until you are above lvl 190+ (which you minus as well get to 200).

    I hope nexon will bring adventures back up to date. and yes, there were some revamps done such as jump update and chaos, but if you ever play warrior and then play a demon slayer for example, you’ll see how much of a differences they are in terms of shear power and speed.

    And I am not asking nexon to make every class the same. No no, I like my drk to be a drk. But what I am asking is for better and useful skill. For example, when i played my demon slayer (which i freaking love), ALL of his skills are useful! I like every single skill that he has, from the defensive to the offensive. And from looking at his class, all of phantoms skills looks extremely useful as well.

    So why not do the same with other classes? Make all the skill useful! For example, bring monster magnet and rush down to 2nd job! that will not only make the skill more useful in the early parts of the warriors life, but it’ll be forever used until 200! Make meditation more useful too! I know I might get a lot of crap from this, but let meditation add weapon attack that stacks with other buffs and pots; like bishop’s blessing. This way i/l and f/p stands a chance in getting into boss runs!

    another example is Hero’s hp and mp recovering skill (forgot what that useless skill is called). Jeezes, that skill is such a horrible skill even after being revamped. It’s actually an INSULT to heroes in my honest opinion. I mean… what use is it to recover less than 100 hp when your character has thousands of hp by lvl 70? Again, another useless skill. This same concept can be applied to Drk’s Aura too. It heals only 400 hp per 4 sec. To some, it may sound like a lot, but it is not to a warrior who has 23k + hp. Instead of healing a static amount, why not by 5% like Mercedes? Then the skill will actually have some value and use.

    I really hope nexon will go back to the drawing boards after phantom is release and think more clearly on adventures. And no, im not asking for a WHOLE revamp like they did with thieves and pirates. God no! I just want a few changes to skills that makes it more worth while in lvling up. What im looking for is just small modification like what i mention earlier: moving rush and monster magnet to 2nd job (btw monster magnet is SUPER weak compare to other classes “pulling” skills so i really don’t see any problem in doing so!). And if warriors has to lvl up stance to lvl 30, I do expect it to be 100%. For crying out loud, other class get its at 100% success rate at lvl 10 with NO effort!

    I know, I am complaining, but it sucks to hear players say “my class is better than yours”, which is true sadly. But you know what sucks even more? Is when Nexon, the people who brought this game to us, says exactly the same thing. Yes, they revamp, but have their revamp really been effective at all? Somewhat, but it still can be so much better. All nexon needs to do is listen to the community from honest and real players. After-all, I am sure we play this game more than any Nexon employee — we should know better!

    /rant. And sorry.

    • December 9, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      how da poopsicles did u write that all?
      and even if nexon doesnt change adventurers, i think tehy will still be the most played classes no matter what….
      and nexon korea is good with balancing op classes
      they take em away after a while so meh

    • Anonymous
      December 9, 2011 at 9:43 pm

      After all most of those jobs are limited =3

    • December 10, 2011 at 1:58 am

      I couldn’t agree with you more. Nexon keeps “udpating” Adventurers to bring them “on par” with the other classes, and then throwing it out the window for the sake of a new class.

      Aside from Useless Recovery, we have Ground Smash…what were they smoking to give us that? All Warrior classes discard that skill at 3rd job (Sader – Brandish, DK – Crusher/Fury, WK – Charged Blow), so why do we even have it? Back to Useless Recovery for a moment, I would be HAPPY if I got 800 HP per 4 seconds. Yes, I’m aware that doesn’t match up much to the 15k HP at level 170, but why in all that is holy would you give us a skill at 2nd job and make it only useful to someone in 1st job? But agreed, make it a freaking percent like Mercedes and Buccaneer for Heaven’s sake, mostly because we’re farther into the fray than either of those classes who can play long range!!

      Monster Magnet and Rush at 2nd job would be a fantastic idea. They ought to even get a buff because SO MANY OTHER CLASSES HAVE THEM. Warriors have almost no originality anymore. Stance was given to everyone else and we even drew the short stick on our own skill!! We put 30 SP in for 95% chance when Mechs/DS have it as 100% passively, Bucc/WH have a bootleg version that are parts of passives, and BaM puts in 10 SP to get it at 3rd job….wtf.

      There has been no balancing in the Union patch, and there is a further neglecting of balance in Justice. I could go on about how there isn’t even balance within classes (i.e. Hero vs Dark Knight vs Paladin), but I’ll save that rant for when we get our next round of “balancing”.

      Justice…unbalancing…irony much?

    • Myr
      December 10, 2011 at 3:59 am

      Lets wait for the final Hero, the facedown with the Black Mage, and then start the final rebalancing.

      Because I do agree, all the updates up till now, did no rebalancing, or whatsoever, at all.
      This will continue on for a long while, therefore, we’ll be ranting for a while xD

      PS.

      You did good writing all that. GJ.

    • BattleStyle
      December 10, 2011 at 9:28 am

      +1. I think that after the pirate / thieves revamp these jobs ARE good Adventurers, and also Dual Blade and Cannon Shooter. but Warriors, Mages and Archers need Keep up!!!
      These jobs got HUGE potential, and Nexon needs to change them: changing the the job of some skills and adding to these jobs useful and cool-looking skills, not just changing the power of all skills….

  25. frosho
    December 9, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    They fucked Demon slayers up O-O

  26. doonish
    December 9, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    mithi9 :
    OMG THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!
    AND HAHA DEMON SLAYER NERF

    saying haha due to scared of being KSed by their pure awesomeness? figures.

    • Herp
      December 9, 2011 at 10:11 pm

      Lolz
      No Im just saying that cuz Ive been less so much by them….

      • Herp
        December 9, 2011 at 10:19 pm

        Less = ksed

    • Myr
      December 10, 2011 at 3:51 am

      I will think of this everytime a demon slayer KSes my noobmule in a map.

      “Youll get nerfed soon enough. Ill let you have your fun a little longer.”

      • Herp
        December 10, 2011 at 9:04 am

        And those people will still have chose them as their main
        No matter what
        And face it all classed after 4 th job are the same

  27. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    I guess Phantom will be time limited because in another way they can play as any job anytime.
    *find jobs to steal at FM XD

  28. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Max you should link kyo’s Phantom video on youtube, gives more information on how steal mode works.

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm

      I updated my post with a lot of detailed information about the Steal skill! 😀

      • Anonymous
        December 9, 2011 at 11:08 pm

        Yeah time to have HS withouth a bishop =3

        • Xario
          December 12, 2011 at 12:07 am

          Hs is a move that takes 30 sp, but the 3rd job steal skill for Phantoms only goes up to level 20 sooooooo yea, the hs that phantoms will have won’t be as good and I think this is a good idea not just for priest but for all classes, Would be bad if phantoms would be making other classes not as important.

          • Max
            December 12, 2011 at 5:16 pm

            HS was changed to a level 20 skill in a recent update in kMS.

  29. Donut
    December 9, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Lol massive nerfs on Cannon, Demon, Merce
    I guess i will just make them for the skill links

  30. December 9, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Can you please make a note that players can still use the skill stolen from the other character even if character is no longer in the map? It’s permanent unless you choose to remove it. Some people are getting mixed up over it.

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm

      It’s somewhere there now xD

    • Donut
      December 9, 2011 at 11:01 pm

      Yes all you need to do is just go FM and find the job you want to steal skill from 😀
      You onyl can steal 16 Skills ( 4 1st , 4 2nd, 4 3rd, 4 4th )

      • Max
        December 9, 2011 at 11:06 pm

        13 actually xD

  31. December 9, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Max,about the Quick Evasion skill what does the evasion+30% give?permanently give 30% chance to dodge being hit or evasion values+30%?

  32. Herp
    December 9, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Thx for the verification on steal mode
    I’m still confused on the effect nullify thing u are talking about

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:18 pm

      Haste is a 1st job skill that I stole, and so is Magic Claw.

      If I set my Talent skill to be Haste, use Haste, then switch my set skill to Magic Claw, my Haste buff will go away.

      • Herp
        December 9, 2011 at 11:24 pm

        Ahh I see
        Thx
        Lol I have a feeling this will be needed in some way
        And how is phantom gameplay wise?
        Fun?
        Is it op?

        • Herp
          December 9, 2011 at 11:24 pm

          Lolz
          Needed= nerfed
          Sorry

        • Max
          December 9, 2011 at 11:32 pm

          I really like it, stealing skills is really awesome!

          Plus with Haste, Swift Phantom, and Phantom Shroud, he can move sooooooooooooo fast! Zooming around a map!

  33. Anonymous
    December 9, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Can they steal from dual bladers and are they allowed to take shadow partner?

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:22 pm

      Since there are no Dual Bladers in Tespia, I can’t say for sure, but I’m gonna say no to any Adventurer+ classes (i.e. Dual Bladers and Cannon Shooters).

      No, you cannot steal Shadow Partner. (I’m pretty sure it’s because it counts as a summon)

      • Wang
        April 14, 2012 at 11:30 pm

        Shadow Partner is a summon? Are you sure? Wouldn’t that allow assasins to break damage cap?

  34. NovaNuvaMS
    December 9, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    To Max or anyone…I have a question about the “Talent of Phantom” skill that steals skills…Does the skills you steal stay with you forever, like not go away when u log off?

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:21 pm

      Like I said in the post, stolen skills will stay with you until you yourself choose to delete them.

      • Dylan
        December 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm

        can you stack damage reduction skills. i.e . Meso gaurd and Magic Gaurd with a Phantom? if so would it block like 100% lol.

        • Max
          December 10, 2011 at 3:43 pm

          Probably, you can steal both Meso Guard and Magic Guard and use them at the same time 😮

          But Phantom has low HP and MP 😦

  35. Good God....
    December 9, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Whoa amazing! but Max, i know you can’t steal any summons or passive skills. But other than that is it ALL skills? Its pretty confusing >_< if possible could you make a list of skills available for stealing? ty

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:20 pm

      Yes, I’m pretty sure you can steal all other skills. Making a list would take a really really really long time, so I don’t think I can do that D:

      • Good God....
        December 9, 2011 at 11:26 pm

        k thanks :D, but just question. Does shadow partner count as a summon? and can we steal from cannon shooter and dual bladers?

        • Max
          December 9, 2011 at 11:33 pm

          You can’t steal Shadow Partner (it’s basically a summon).

          Can’t be sure about Cannon Shooter or Dual Bladers (they’re not in Tespia) but I’m gonna say no, because they’re not really Adventurers per se.

          • Good God....
            December 9, 2011 at 11:35 pm

            kk thanks max 😀

  36. NovaNuvaMS
    December 9, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    OH NVM my question is answereddd LOL

  37. NovaNuvaMS
    December 9, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Thnx btw Max haha 😀

  38. Shadow Partner?
    December 9, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Can shadow partner/mirror imaging be stolen?

    • Herp
      December 9, 2011 at 11:32 pm

      Read th comments above…

    • Max
      December 9, 2011 at 11:44 pm

      You can’t steal Shadow Partner (it’s basically a summon).

  39. ireplyu
    December 9, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    omg this job is like a maple version of kakashi copy other jobs attack =.=”

  40. December 9, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Hmm… i guess poison mist don’t count as summon…?

  41. Javi
    December 9, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Max do you know if Phantom will be able to create or does the creation has a time limit like Dual Blade and the other Legend jobs? Thanks a lot 🙂

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 12:00 am

      There’s no information about that yet, sorry D:

  42. Narwhol
    December 9, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    The crit on phantom is a little ridiculous..they get 60% base and then they can steal SE to get it to 80%, then crit ring is 90% and if the card buff skill activates to crit rate it would be 110% (or remove crit ring because plenty of people wouldnt have it and it totals 100% still). The demon slayer nerfs suck, I’d better get mine to 200 in the few months before the nerf on GMS.

  43. Buster
    December 10, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Very well done Max,seems like a lot of nerfs has gone around KMS.
    For the others I’m not sure if it will apply to GMS.Don’t give up your hopes now.

    • kylesauce
      December 10, 2011 at 12:10 am

      Any revamps that happen in KMS usually happen in GMS, there’s never been one revamp that GMS didn’t get that KMS did get.

  44. kylesauce
    December 10, 2011 at 12:09 am

    I see Nexons strategy. They make one job powerful, then they nerf them, move on to another job decide if they want to make it powerful, later on nerf it; cause hundreds of dollars in money gone to most people. Buff another character so on so on.

    • ireplyu
      December 10, 2011 at 12:33 am

      the only winners are the adventurers that keep getting buffed each time round!!

      • Anti-Nonymous
        December 10, 2011 at 3:47 am

        Hell Yeah!

  45. jackson
    December 10, 2011 at 12:10 am

    how can i make an account for kms…

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 12:13 am

      We have a registration guide at EllinForest.com 🙂

      • kylesauce
        December 10, 2011 at 1:02 am

        I feel like trying to DL kms again. The first time i tried it didn’t let me open the KMS file. I have the account but the client didn’t want to work.

        • kylesauce
          December 10, 2011 at 1:03 am

          Sorry about the spam, but if I got it to work could I get invite to EllinForest?

  46. commderben
    December 10, 2011 at 12:19 am

    cant we change the skin color of phantom??

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 12:53 am

      Not without skin coupons

      • commderben
        December 10, 2011 at 10:37 am

        ok

  47. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 12:25 am

    is phantom’s main ap luck second dex?

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 12:53 am

      Yup~

  48. Cookiez
    December 10, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Wow no one has said this yet….
    Bye DHB
    Bye DSE
    Bye Bishops in general
    Bye etc.

    • kylesauce
      December 10, 2011 at 1:51 am

      You may only copy one skill, though you could just spam it till you get Holy Symbol. Some skills shouldn’t be stealable. BB is an indeed. D:

      Decent Skills obtained from potential are classified as skills obtainable by anymone, thus you MUST have the potential item to get it and not the Phantom skill.

      • Anonymous
        December 10, 2011 at 4:03 am

        Well, the original classes won’t really disappear, as you will need to original class to be able to copy it, if none are around you won’t be able to get that skill

  49. VylonOmega
    December 10, 2011 at 12:30 am

    Why would they nerf CS they werent strong compared to DS or Merc

    Btw, Phantom really makes me want to duel…

    • downtownline
      December 10, 2011 at 12:55 am

      That’s what I was thinking, I thought that it was fair if they just nerf the DS and Merc only. And plus, after all these revamps on all classes, it is only fair if the CS, Merc and DS are not nerfed. I bet with you that they will nerf the Phantom soon 😦

  50. ireplyu
    December 10, 2011 at 12:31 am

    err wait power guard+power reflection+invincibility=100% DMG REDUCTION?!?!

    • Anonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 1:33 am

      2nd job skills cannot be stacked, they will be replaced.

  51. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 12:46 am

    This class looks fun, but hopefully there wont be a long/huge bandwagon. It doesnt seem OP; the only thing it got going on is the fact it can steel other people skills.

    • Myr
      December 10, 2011 at 3:44 am

      Every new class comes with a wagon. They need to try it out at some point right?
      Not to mention the event/s that comes along with their patch.

      You can try playing it when the hype dies down….hopefully, the kids will be playing the Pirate Hero by then (or a new class). xD

      However Phantom makes a good buff mule indeed. Its amazing how easy it is to just steal a skill and delete it any time. I thought it would be hard to use since it looked like a random steal skill. This skill will be used to its full extent. *nods*

  52. Charles
    December 10, 2011 at 12:51 am

    OMG!!!
    THIS IS SOOO COOL!!!
    THX MAX!!!

    • kylesauce
      December 10, 2011 at 1:08 am

      This isn’t cool. It’s called BB to the awesome Demon Slayers D: I loved those guys. D:<

  53. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Swift Phantom + Flash Jump = ?

    • Anonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      Swift Phantom + Nw’s Flash Jump + Sin/Dit Flash Jump(or is that 2nd job now?)

  54. yami
    December 10, 2011 at 1:30 am

    I’m kinda confused. I don’t play thief(Bishop player), but I thought haste was a 2nd job skill for thief. So how did you use Talent of Phantom Thief and not Talent of Phantom Thief II to get Haste?

    • Herp
      December 10, 2011 at 1:45 am

      Hte was changed to 1st a while ago

    • ireplyu
      December 10, 2011 at 1:47 am

      im sure it got moved to 1st in the recent thief n pirate revamp

      • yami
        December 10, 2011 at 2:03 am

        Ah, thanks. I forgot all about the revamps.

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 11:21 am

      Haste was moved to first job in the last patch 😮

  55. December 10, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Actually the introduction of Phantom may somehow do good to explorers(I doubt that!). Phatoms need explorers for skill stealing. And with explorers getting more and more un-played and un-choosen, this is one of the ways to somehow help adventurers gain back their popularity? Yes? No? But then again, thanks to Nexon who never predicted the future, Legend patch literally(and technically) killed off explorers. Big Bang did enough damage to explorers. Legend patch just got the job done. What for making a jump patch this late for thieves and pirates when no one is gonna play adventurers. So if Phantom’s arival was to bring adventurers back to life, then let’s pray it works…

    • Herp
      December 10, 2011 at 1:44 am

      Da shit are you saying
      I hate when people say
      Explorers are bring neglected
      Explorers are weak
      Explorers Blah bla blah
      Bigbang never hurt explorers
      Legends didn’t do a single thing
      Explorers still continue to be the most played no matter what
      Get that through your head

    • Anti-Nonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 3:33 am

      You are gravely mistaken. Although at some point you might not notice them at all due to the countless Hero’s, Legends, New Class Events that comes out.

      You have no idea how many people have explorers as their [MAIN] do you?

      No HS for you.

      • zxcvb
        December 10, 2011 at 5:01 pm

        Stop making a fuss and do something more productive than this.

  56. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 1:47 am

    Meso Guard + Magic Guard = ?

    • ireplyu
      December 10, 2011 at 1:56 am

      since they don’t have high mp magic guard should just keep reducing their mp to a very low amount so its like good only with auto pot i guess?

  57. ireplyu
    December 10, 2011 at 1:54 am

    anyway just like CS,Merc n DS i’m sure Nexon will nerf this class during the patch after phantoms release

    • Myr
      December 10, 2011 at 3:36 am

      Every OP damage comes with a price.

      Lets just enjoy this update until it gets nerfed 😛

  58. December 10, 2011 at 3:14 am

    I love your detailed explaination on Phantom’s skill stealer. ❤
    Keep up the good work. :3

  59. Anti-Nonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 3:28 am

    Ahh…itd be nice if they stop nerfing and just get on with the original damage… : |
    sure its because theyre new but…jeez.
    If theyre going to rebalance it…they should just flat right out balance it. xD

  60. GrimTology
    December 10, 2011 at 3:41 am

    Max, can Magic guard be used on phantom? High avoid + Magic guard would help 😀

    • Myr
      December 10, 2011 at 4:18 am

      woah. Now that you mention it. . . . that would be so pro.

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 11:24 am

      You can steal Magic Guard, although their HP and MP are pretty low so there isn’t much of a point :S

  61. Dough
    December 10, 2011 at 4:15 am

    I’d still like to see a good defense skill for Night Lords.
    I dont mind the nice offensive skills, they’re bound to use only one or two of those skills anyway.

    But they really don’t want to give Assassins/Hermits/NightLords any defense huh?

  62. December 10, 2011 at 4:27 am

    wong wei lian :
    max,can you use soul steal to steal monster skills like (magic crash) which is a bad skill ?

    That would be a debuff, and he can only steal buffs not debuffs

  63. Anonymouse~
    December 10, 2011 at 4:47 am

    Hyper drive only does 85% damage? or isit a typo and should be 850%?

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 11:25 am

      Ultimate Drive is a skill that consecutively attacks, like… a lot of times.

    • Anonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 8:47 pm

      It hits 6 enemies though. It’s basically a mobbing hurricane. So really, you’re damage output is 510% while hitting 6 enemies (85% x 6 = 510%). About double what hurricane does. In the time it take a BM to kill two enemies you can kill 6 if they had the same range and if these attacks do the same amount of strikes per second. Basically, you could skill steal hurricane and use that on 1v3 maybe while 1v4 and up you should use Drive. At least that’s what it sounds like to me…

      • Wang
        April 14, 2012 at 11:38 pm

        its basically ishtar’s ring. It hits lower damage than ishtar’s right becuase of cate noir which is like an automatic 60% increase in damage.

  64. xiaomen
    December 10, 2011 at 6:01 am

    hyper drive is meelee version of huricanne? how much hit it hit per minutes>? Huricanne 500arrow per minutes , how bout tis

  65. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Anybody know if the class can wield a shield or not?

    Such an original idea, thanks for posting this

    • BattleStyle
      December 10, 2011 at 9:35 am

      No, Phantom has Cards as a secondary weapon so he can’t use Shields.

      • Anonymous
        December 10, 2011 at 9:40 am

        So canes are 1-handed, and the second slot is used by cards?

      • Anonymous
        December 10, 2011 at 9:41 am

        So canes are 1-handed, and cards are like Mercedes arrows?

  66. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 9:25 am

    So its possibale only to steal from adventures…… LOL I wanted dark aura so damn much,
    Can you use the stolen skill without the weapon of that specific job? (Bishop=Wand/staff.) etc

    • Anonymous
      December 10, 2011 at 11:13 am

      His cane becomes the weapon needed.

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 11:26 am

      Yup, the Cane turns into whatever weapon type is needed.

  67. jackson
    December 10, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Hey how can i make an acc for kms but im nt living in korean it required kssn

  68. commderben
    December 10, 2011 at 10:42 am

    how am i supposed to max everything!

  69. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    I really wanna see what this guy is like in pvp. Steal a players move and they can’t use it? lol That’d be epic!

  70. Ian
    December 10, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Eeep! I’m so not going back to the shitteh version of legit maple!(MSEA)

  71. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Good job Nexon.. Just a good job.

    Now they nerf the Legens after the hype has all passed. Obvious plan is too obvious.

    With phantom, WTF are BISHOPS for THEN? They should FUCKING nerf that Steal Skill. Its just freakin unfair!!

    • Herp
      December 10, 2011 at 2:03 pm

      Lolz patience
      There is still 18 more days till release
      Just wait
      It will nerfed
      A LOT

  72. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Can the noir carte be activated more than once per attack? If so, your KSing problems are FAR from over.Imagine: SE + Fire Charge + Ultimate drive + 12%crit weapon. That’s about 8593% per second.With one of those 600K ranges, they’d cream something like Mercedes at its prime! With a 10K range that would be 8593000 per second! You could literally have a 3second pap solo as an average character. This is with 50% evasion rate + something like HB. As said before, they can be awesome buff mules too. Really, everyone would play this character, and Maplestory would become really boring.4
    On another note, this is probably the first class truly capable of being unique within its class. You can actually customize your character now. I wish other classes had something like this.

    • Herp
      December 10, 2011 at 2:10 pm

      Lolz
      It’ll be nerfed
      Watch and see

  73. someone
    December 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    I wonder how long before somebody steal GM skill? or can you?

  74. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Anonymous :
    Can the noir carte be activated more than once per attack? If so, your KSing problems are FAR from over.Imagine: SE + Fire Charge + Ultimate drive + 12%crit weapon. That’s about 8593% per second.With one of those 600K ranges, they’d cream something like Mercedes at its prime! With a 10K range that would be 8593000 per second! You could literally have a 3second pap solo as an average character. This is with 50% evasion rate + something like HB. As said before, they can be awesome buff mules too. Really, everyone would play this character, and Maplestory would become really boring.4
    On another note, this is probably the first class truly capable of being unique within its class. You can actually customize your character now. I wish other classes had something like this.

    wtf is Ultimate Drive? Ill try this in kmst

    • Max
      December 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm

      The fourth job multiple slashing attack with the badass cape!

  75. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Herp :
    Lolz
    It’ll be nerfed
    Watch and see

    lolz
    you’re dumb
    Pick an OP dmg dealing hero or the Steal system we have now

    If one gets nerfed, other gets buffed so gg

    • December 10, 2011 at 3:44 pm

      just watch….

  76. bluebomber2425
    December 10, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    I don’t get Mercs final attack boost? It almost seems like regular Final Attack is stronger than Advanced final attack. Can someone explain this to me.

  77. Anonymous
    December 10, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Holy fuck. I think Aran just became the best warrior. Before Aran was the only warrior close to DS in any aspect as far as damage and junk goes. Look at the warrior %damage thread on SouthPerry if you don’t believe me.

  78. commderben
    December 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    i cant wait t osee some idiot complain to nerf the class when most classes get revamps most of the time alot of idiots who ever want to nerf this class idc if i dont play it its just retarded how people comeplain when it gets nerfed just leave it as it is

    • Frostycus
      December 11, 2011 at 10:40 pm

      Now say it again but in English xD. Seriously dude ¿wth are you talking about? I am not sure if you are in favor or against the nerf.

      • commderben
        December 12, 2011 at 6:21 am

        cant wait to see some idiot complain to nerf the class (phantom class)when most classes get revamps most of the time alot of idiots who ever want to nerf new class s but they dont even want to play the class when there class gets revamps alot and they dont want to play the phantom class alot of people said just leave it as it is

  79. Anomymous5215
    December 10, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Question on a skill if it can be stolen.

    Can Phantom steal Paladin’s Combat Orders? And would that increase the skill levels for your stolen skills and such?

    • December 10, 2011 at 8:23 pm

      Wow, i didnt even think about that! Would it even increase your skills, since it’s stolen? I don’t have a paladin so i dont know much about Combat orders so could you answer these questions as well?

      1. Does it increase all skills, or just the 4th job skills when activated?
      2. If only 4th job, is the effect of increasing lower jobs skills passive for just paladin?
      I already know that only 4th job skills can be increased higher than the limit with CO, so no need tell me that XD

      Thaks ahead of time 😀

      • matrixphijr
        March 22, 2012 at 3:42 am

        Combat Orders raises all skills (+1 from levels 1-19, and +2 only when it’s level 20), but only 4th job skills can go past the max.
        There’s even a CO build for Paladins (which I used on mine), where you leave all 1st-3rd job skills at 18, thereby giving you enough points to “max” all of them. The only instance where that’s not true is on something like Charged Blow, where you HAVE to actually put 30 points in the skill or you won’t be able to use ACB in 4th job.

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm

      You probably can, but I’m not sure… I haven’t even seen a Paladin in Tespia so I can’t really test it :S

      • TehFrancis
        December 11, 2011 at 12:35 pm

        I’ve had a Paladin for as long as I can remember. I can probably answer these questions for you. 🙂

        1. It increases ALL skill levels for every party member you have. No matter what job tier they are.
        2. Because of that, if a lower tier skill isn’t max level, it will receive the boost anyway. And that applies to everyone in the party!

        Given that Phantom can probably steal it because of the fact it’s active, I’m sure it’ll work the same way as Paladins use it. However I don’t think it’ll also boost your other stolen skills, considering their level is already determined by how strong your Skill Steal is, so I would assume it has the absolute priority.

        I hope that helps!

  80. December 10, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Max,do you know if I can get the passive effect by stealing Haste(passively gives you maxspeed+20%)? It is weird I see a phantom with 180% speed…

  81. Reza_GMS@windowslive.com
    December 11, 2011 at 6:23 am

    So there IS no empress cane? <.< Fuck this and nexon not giving empress weapon for every class

  82. Reza_GMS@windowslive.com
    December 11, 2011 at 6:26 am

    forad999 :
    Max,do you know if I can get the passive effect by stealing Haste(passively gives you maxspeed+20%)? It is weird I see a phantom with 180% speed…

    No if an active skill has a passive effect you can still use the active skill but you dont get the passive efffect

    For example : Skill X does 3x 200% damage + passive effect raises skill Y by 20% damage

    You will do the 3x 200% with skill X but you dont get the passive effect of raising skill Y by 20% damage

    So no haste will not give you maxspeed +20%

    • December 11, 2011 at 7:26 am

      But it is weird that a guy in the pic below gets 180% speed.

      or I miss something?

      • Max
        December 11, 2011 at 12:02 pm

        Yeah I have that much too, I’m sort of confused… :S

        • Walk-Tru Guy
          January 11, 2012 at 1:23 am

          “If the skill has a passive effect, you do not receive that passive effect.”

          i think that means the passive effect doesn’t occur after you steal it~
          but will take effect once you cast it~ that’s why he got 180% speed..( i think @@)

          • Max
            January 11, 2012 at 4:57 pm

            That was an old SS, they fixed it xD
            Now you can only go up to 165% 😦 even with Haste.

  83. Ron
    December 11, 2011 at 7:25 am

    Does the skill Tempest of Cards spin forever until the skill key is released?

    Also, is Ultimate Drive affected by weapon speed while being cast? If it is then Speed Infusion may be a good skill to steal.

    • ireplyu
      December 11, 2011 at 7:40 am

      card tempest onli last a few secs n den it has a cooldown im sure of that

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      It only lasts maybe 5 seconds.

      I haven’t tried it yet, I’ll try and let you know 😮

  84. BattleStyle
    December 11, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I think its a great job. But one thing is bothering me: he doesn’t have an attack skill with his cane on 2nd job. I didn’t played him, but i think they should change “Call Of Fate” into something more useful. again, I don’t have a phantom so i don’t really know, can somone with a phantom tell me if its a good skill???

    • Herp
      December 11, 2011 at 11:56 am

      Maybe try it out…..,…
      U are is Thespis the rates are high ur should take like 15 minutes…

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      Call of Fate is pretty bad, I didn’t use it much (mostly because it only hits 2 monsters)

  85. JProllz
    December 11, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I’m liking this class. It’s a melee class that focusses on tons of swift hits, which I like.

    Also, Mercedes and Demon Slayer get a needed debuff (but I wish it was just Mercedes… I want to play a Demon Slayer). I don’t think Cannoneer needed a debuff though.

  86. CaptainPirate
    December 11, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Max, I have a question. So since cannon shooter, mercedes and demon slayer were limited does that mean nexon is going to create a different archer hero and a different warrior? Cause it wouldn’t make sense for them to be limited. Oh Yes! Pirates are back in ❤ Finally we get some buffs and new moves.

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 1:27 pm

      That’s very unlikely

      • CaptainPirate
        December 11, 2011 at 1:35 pm

        So it’s just gone? Well that sucks. Do you know why they were limited?

        • Max
          December 11, 2011 at 2:07 pm

          They will come back occasionally, like Dual Blader came back temporarily during the Chaos update 🙂

  87. December 11, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    lolz max
    i dont get it
    u explained the skill buff nullify thing that if u had a buff on and then used another the previous would dissipate
    how come i see phantoms with haste, hyperbody etc all at once
    thx!

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 2:07 pm

      They’re in different job advancements

      • Herp
        December 11, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        So if in diff
        U can stack?

        • Max
          December 11, 2011 at 6:40 pm

          Yup

          • December 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm

            that seams a little unfair….

  88. Drugs
    December 11, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    I noticed that the skill Ultimate Drive doesn’t work exactly like Hurricane/Rapid Fire as in 3 hits of the Ultimate Drive is considered 1 attack and only would trigger 1 Noir Carte per 3 hit. Unlike Ultimate Drive, 1 hit of Hurricane/Rapid Fire is considered as 1 attack and would trigger 1 Noir Carte (if it is critical) so 3 critical hits of the Hurricane/Rapid Fire would be able to trigger 3 Noir Carte.

    Thus, Hurricane/Rapid Fire would be able to trigger more Noir Carte than Ultimate Drive and hence deal more damage/sec than Ultimate Drive. If this is true, this class would be using Rapid Fire for most of the 1v1 bosses (Rapid Fire is preferred to Hurricane as its % is more) and it would be retarded and lame as it borrows the main attack skill of another job. Anyway, using the tactic above, this class will be dealing a maximum of 16 million damage per second (8 hits of 999999 with Rapid Fire and another 8 hits of 999999 with Noir Carte) with 100% critical when 1v1.

    I wonder if it will be able to out damage Mercedes in 1v1 as Ring of Ishar is able to achieve 27 hits per second with just Advanced Final Attack (more with summons), though lower damage %.

    Unless they change the Ultimate Drive skill to be like Hurricane (or change Noir Carte to activate on every critical hit) and remove the cool down on Tempest of Cards, this class wouldn’t be as fun as it seems to be. They will be using Rapid Fire on most bosses since Ultimate Drive has short range and low damage/sec and it would just be boring.

    On bosses like Zakum or Horned Tail they can use Ultimate Drive while waiting for the cool down on Tempest of Cards but I’m not sure if it is better than just pure Rapid Fire.

    • JProllz
      December 11, 2011 at 5:47 pm

      I’m already planning out what skills I’m going to steal.

      • JProllz
        December 11, 2011 at 5:48 pm

        Oh jesus, disregard that. It wasn’t meant to be related.

  89. NovaNuvaMS
    December 11, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    To Max and anyone else… For Dual Blades I don’t get it there’s like so many job advancements…Like there’s so many job advancements… Which skills of Dual Blade are considered to be 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th for Phantom’s steal skill.

  90. Gourmand
    December 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    I really hope Blanc Carte and Noir Carte will have there name change, or fixed. Because it’s in french but with bad grammar and what not.

    For it to make sens in french it should be Carte Blanche and Carte Noire.

    As in french color adjective goes after and a card is feminine so it’s Blanche, not Blanc, Noire, not Noir.

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 6:11 pm

      I noticed that too!

      Noir might be Noire, but if I was to change it I would’ve had to change Blanc too, and the Korean does not make the che sound :S (not the mention the order)

  91. Anonymous
    December 11, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    unrelated but can anybody tell me how to get victor von leon recipes?

  92. Anonymous
    December 11, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    If your cane is changed to the wep needed then would the att be the same as the cane? o.o

    • Max
      December 11, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      I think that’s how it works..

  93. Bob
    December 11, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    I don’t like this steal thing. Its not fair to bishops/ any class with a unique ability.

    • Xario
      December 12, 2011 at 12:12 am

      I think it’s ok since hs is a skill that has a max level of 30 and the 3rd job steal will only go up to level 20 so it’s just a nerfed version.

      • Ron
        December 12, 2011 at 2:45 am

        I though Talent of Phantom Thief IV allows you to 4th job or lower skills that are level 30 or below? Means if you max this skill you will be able to steal a level 30 HS.

      • MeshMage
        December 12, 2011 at 8:32 am

        HS has a max level of 20 in Advance of the Union part 2 update since we get Critical Magic or something. SR and HS both have a max level of 20 now. GG Bishops. 😦

      • Max
        December 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm

        HS was changed to a level 20 skill in a recent update in kMS~

  94. Urujin
    December 11, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    would you post the damage of a normal X lvl cane ? (or just say around how much dmg one have)?

  95. December 12, 2011 at 1:32 am

    OH.. fsifsThief IS YOU? blerchhiuheiwbfie
    I’m Trolls.

  96. Azeal
    December 12, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    WTF.
    BISHOPS ARE BEING BASHED UP AGAINNNN.

    FISH YOU NEXON, QUICKLY ACCEPT ME TO THE COMPANY’S IDEAS SECTION!!

    /endrant

  97. December 12, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Pirate get back our rtansformation?… awesome… still… too much awesomness… i love you..

    max, i have a favor to ask you, as i am a fan of your blog: can you put a video of pirate skills, buccaneer, all please? one per one? i will be soo happy if you do! thanks!

  98. PirateMasterX
    December 12, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Max, could you explain to me the mounts for pirates. Also will the mercedes, demon slayer and cannon shooter ever be permanent? Also when copying a move for example a buff from any class do they have restrictions? Like less time or more MP used?

    • Max
      December 12, 2011 at 5:50 pm

      What do you mean explain? Vipers get Super Transform as a mount and Captains get Battleship o_o

      Don’t know about that, but I don’t think so :S

      No restrictions, it’s basically the same skill.

      • collector
        December 12, 2011 at 7:25 pm

        Wait wait, pirates have those back now ?
        *proceed to check*

        • Max
          December 12, 2011 at 7:33 pm

          Only as mounts, not a real skill 😛

          • collector
            December 13, 2011 at 7:16 am

            Will they get any increases except for speed and jump though ?

            (most likely not imo)

          • Max
            December 13, 2011 at 1:49 pm

            Don’t think so :S

      • December 13, 2011 at 4:51 pm

        hey! i’m asking you: buccaneer will still have super transformation? please do a video for me!! :O

        • Max
          December 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm

          The skill itself will be removed, so you can’t fight in it.

          However you get it back as a mount only.

          • December 14, 2011 at 3:51 pm

            Need to buy o something??

          • Max
            December 14, 2011 at 9:16 pm

            There is a small quiz after fourth job advancement with Samuel.

  99. Ron
    December 12, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Max :
    It only lasts maybe 5 seconds.
    I haven’t tried it yet, I’ll try and let you know 😮

    Max have you tried it? Does the cool down start when you use the skill or after the skill finishes? That skill may be the best skill in game if not for the cool down.

    • Max
      December 12, 2011 at 9:46 pm

      The cooldown for Tempest of Card starts exactly when you release the skill button and finish the skill 😮

      • Ron
        December 13, 2011 at 4:13 am

        That sucks. Do you gain invincibility while casting the skill? It will be real dumb if we have to wait 8 seconds and then get skill locked or knocked back.

    • Max
      December 12, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      Also for Ultimate Drive, it did seem faster to me when I used Booster!

  100. shakarfails
    December 12, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    this is so much btr than shakarz
    yes. it so good. i love. fuck shakar

  101. Anonymous
    December 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Finally those Demon Slayer asses got the nerfing they deserved! I’m laughing hysterically at the moment due to the sheer idiocracy that those kill stealing Demon Slayers actually believed they’ll have that kind of power for the rest of their lives. Tch, I won’t forgive them for that, revenge is nearly upon you Demon Slayers, and lets just say you won’t be getting off easy.

    • Anonymous
      January 27, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      we still keep our buffs and some of us can live with the nerf and still kill steal your asses ahahaah and btw once we reach lvl 200 it wont matter its months before the nerf and demon slayers will rarely be avalible lol

  102. Ron
    December 13, 2011 at 5:32 am

    Erm, does magician skills like Arcane Aim works for skills that uses weapon attack? Meaning I can use Arcane Aim and Ultimate Drive it will have effect?

    • Ron
      December 13, 2011 at 6:16 am

      Opps, sorry i guess you can’t steal that skill.

  103. Sulf
    December 13, 2011 at 6:57 am

    Hey, dunno if it’s a dumb question since no one raised it, but heck I’ll just ask. Can we steal an ultimate adventurer’s Cygnus Knight skill? Eg. Mihail’s Soul Driver, Irina’s Wind Piercing etc.

    • Max
      December 13, 2011 at 1:48 pm

      That’s a beginner job skill so nope 😮

  104. GrimTology
    December 13, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Hey Max, just to confirm. If a person has maxed haste but ur steal skill is only at level 1. Therefore, ur haste would be at level 1. However, if u add more points to ur steal skill, would the level for haste be higher?

    • Max
      December 13, 2011 at 1:48 pm

      That is correct~

  105. JS
    December 13, 2011 at 10:00 am

    LOL it look damn like Final Fantasy Agito, Ace card user….even the skill is almost the same

  106. Anonymous
    December 13, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Could you take a cleric’s heal?

    • Max
      December 13, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      Yep

  107. redecoded
    December 14, 2011 at 4:14 am

    Aww still no drain skill for NL

  108. Anonymous
    December 14, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    When you use rapid fire or hurricane do you have to have bullets/arrows? 😮

    • Max
      December 14, 2011 at 8:09 pm

      Nope~

  109. Inquirer
    December 14, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Hey max is how do you get the mounts for buccs? Do you automatically get it free or do u have to buy it

    • Max
      December 14, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      A small quiz after fourth job advancement with Samuel.

  110. Random Guy
    December 14, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Woah wait… Phantoms have a skill that raises their luck by 40, and another that passively increases it by 60! I hope the 60 is a typo, because that is 100 luck! That is 20 levels of mass adding luck, so he will do 20 levels more damage than other classes!? Tell me if im wrong, or messed up somewhere ok?

  111. Anonymous
    December 18, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    cool job but kinda look lik demon slayer

  112. DestinyThief
    December 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Hello max i have a question, i know its hard to answer all the questions
    if you steal, lucky seven,tripplethrow do you need stars to use the them?
    or do you see a lighting star?

    • Max
      December 19, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      Nope, its really cool because it actually throws cards instead of stars xD

  113. Charlie
    December 22, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    ds and cs got nerfed badly, merc, on the other hand looks fine, or maybe got stronger, wth, Final Attack: Dual Bowgun: damage has been increased from 75% to 150%. she is already really fast and they nerfed a slow cs and boost a fast merc, that doesn’t make sense. they need to revamp all the classes, and make them balance.

  114. MS Sea Player
    December 29, 2011 at 6:21 am

    Greetings max, i find that your description skill for phantom thief is very detail although i am curious on what is the new skill changes for captain/corsair, buccaner/viper and shadower….can you make a page specially for this three class and elaborate on their skills?

  115. RiceCake
    January 6, 2012 at 4:56 am

    If you steal a skill that has prerequisites but you don’t have the prerequisite can you still use the skill? If you do need the prerequisites does it have to be in the active slot? Thanks in advance.

    • Max
      January 6, 2012 at 12:35 pm

      I’m not sure if you can steal skills with prerequisites…. :S

    • Anonymous
      January 27, 2012 at 11:51 am

      can they copy dual blades skills too?

      • Max
        January 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm

        Nope

  116. PhantomCarde
    January 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Hey max quick question is the phantom’s cane one handed or 2 handed plus is is main stat dex or luk ? Thanks

    • Max
      January 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm

      One handed, and luk, like a regular thief 😛

  117. PhantomCarde
    January 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Hey max quick question is the phantom’s cane one handed or 2 handed plus is his main stat dex or luk ? Thanks

  118. AyoTyga
    January 17, 2012 at 8:01 am

    uhm.. nexon should really stop making new classes.. if this keep continue on maple will be screw up in another few years… what i’m saying is that if they make new classes it should be something like completely new.. e.g. when they release pirate, new weapon, new armor and so on. and then they decide to release mix breed classes which are resistance, legends and stuff. e.g. Demonslayer..= Battle Mage + Warrior + Dual Blade… while Mercedes = Crossbowman + Dual Blade.. like seriously -.-” they needa be more creative when they make a new class.. Phantom will be just like everysingle other class mix together since he have the so call “skill stealing”.
    so sum up conclusion, they needa stop making classes and release black mage patch.

  119. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Max, i just have one question, by now.. is the class OP? honestly.

    • Max
      January 24, 2012 at 11:17 am

      I think its balanced, its just many people see videos of only new classes hitting 999,999 so they automatically think OP, when really those are just a few people with a lot of money to spend, haha.

  120. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    This class is going to destroy party dynamics…

  121. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    this makes me so horny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  122. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    8============================================D~~~~~~~~~~ [phantom’s ass]

  123. Anonymous
    January 24, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    8==========================================D~~~~~~~~~~~~[PHANTOM’s @nu$]

  124. Anonymous
    January 25, 2012 at 1:08 am

    😀 i love it!!! I love all of it! The cards, I love jester classes, the cane, the skills, its epic 😀 thx for this page i was looking around for some english info and stumbled on a link at maple wiki, i cant wait till this class comes out!

  125. Anonymous
    January 26, 2012 at 9:38 am

    can’t wait for it

  126. Anonymous
    January 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    wait for Mercs are they deleting ancient warding?

    • Max
      January 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm

      No

  127. Anonymous
    February 10, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    cant wait for this to come out in gms phantom is an incredible class !

  128. Anonymous
    March 2, 2012 at 1:57 am

    i know, its so cool

  129. Anonymous
    March 6, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    hi max, do you know what the damage multiplier for canes are?

    • Max
      March 6, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      No, sorry, you’d be better off asking like Southperry for that.

  130. Anonymous
    March 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    M-ercedes
    A-ran
    P-hantom
    L-??????
    E-Evan

    Any Guesses for the pirate hero??
    Luffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous
      July 6, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      its Luminous 😀

  131. Anonymous
    April 8, 2012 at 11:49 pm

    can phantoms steal skills from vipers that require energy charge

    • Max
      April 9, 2012 at 12:03 am

      Nope.

  132. Anonymous
    April 14, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    when is it going to apear that character in south america

  133. Anonymous
    April 17, 2012 at 1:45 pm

    do you get a free character space when you create a phantom like the others legends?

    • Max
      April 17, 2012 at 4:19 pm

      Nope. 😦

      • Anonymous
        April 30, 2012 at 7:35 am

        thanks max ill just buy another slot 😀

      • Anonymous
        April 30, 2012 at 7:38 am

        thanks Max I’ll just buy another slot 😀

        • Anonymous
          April 30, 2012 at 7:39 am

          LOL my bad didnt think the first one worked XD

  134. Anonymous
    May 3, 2012 at 8:25 am

    What Is the phantom’s primary and secondary stat? If it is int, i am screwed.

    • Max
      May 3, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      Luk and dex, just like a regular thief.

  135. Anonymous
    May 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    phantom are 1 handed correct?

    • Max
      May 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm

      Canes are one-handed

  136. Anonymous
    May 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    are phanom one or two handed, im thinking one but i would conifirmation.

    • Max
      May 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm

      Canes are one-handed 🙂

  137. Anonymous
    May 13, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    wats 2day

  138. :D
    June 12, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    one quetion for ultimate drive do you have to kill zak for the book to learn it or is it maxed at 10 when u get 120 adv and u need 20/30 book?

    • Max
      June 12, 2012 at 11:25 pm

      Phantom does not need any skill books from Zakum.

      • :D
        June 13, 2012 at 9:36 am

        ok ty im rlly lookin forward to the class now

  139. chris
    June 28, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    gayy idk why they nerfed mecedes, demon slayer and cannoner soo damn bad its retarted personally

  140. Anonymous
    July 6, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    lol if they keep nerfing class and make new one must people will must likely jump to the new class which may be op when it come on and it will keep on going on and on

  141. Anonymous
    September 2, 2012 at 12:38 am

    rfdszfgdjfgukihjyl,nmlmghik

  142. Anonymous
    October 4, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    what times the phantom comming?????????

  143. Biing
    October 20, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    ANy Job Intro to ply? i mean wont get nerf…

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